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	<title>Comments on: Why People End Up In the Lake of Fire.</title>
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		<title>By: Peter Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:  46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
The above verses from the gospel of Matthew chapter 25, parable of sheep and goats, may be of help.
No comment needed from me just have a look for your self.
God bless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:  46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.<br />
The above verses from the gospel of Matthew chapter 25, parable of sheep and goats, may be of help.<br />
No comment needed from me just have a look for your self.<br />
God bless</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Melton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Melton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 10:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is slightly going off topic, however I have noticed the use of Christian &quot;catch phrases&quot; in some of the responses. Why do we use them? Have they been coined by some so called theologian or Christian book writer so we accept them as truth or scriptural? Most seem to be vague, and when pressed people really have a hard time defining the meanings. Why not just use scripture, instead of what is the equivalent of advertising sound bites that turn the meat of Gods word into mere cookie crumbs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is slightly going off topic, however I have noticed the use of Christian &#8220;catch phrases&#8221; in some of the responses. Why do we use them? Have they been coined by some so called theologian or Christian book writer so we accept them as truth or scriptural? Most seem to be vague, and when pressed people really have a hard time defining the meanings. Why not just use scripture, instead of what is the equivalent of advertising sound bites that turn the meat of Gods word into mere cookie crumbs.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Backens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Backens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree there is no such verse as &quot;God loves the sinner but hates the sin&quot; as in, he ignores my sin because he loves me so much, that does not mean God doesn&#039;t love me while I&#039;m covered in iniquity.  Romans 5:8 says clearly &quot;But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, WHILE we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree there is no such verse as &#8220;God loves the sinner but hates the sin&#8221; as in, he ignores my sin because he loves me so much, that does not mean God doesn&#8217;t love me while I&#8217;m covered in iniquity.  Romans 5:8 says clearly &#8220;But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, WHILE we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Virginia Sills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virginia Sills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone quote me Scripture, book, chapter and verse please where we are told that:

God loves the sinner, but hates the sin.

God cannot love him who is covered in iniquity.

May God have mercy on us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone quote me Scripture, book, chapter and verse please where we are told that:</p>
<p>God loves the sinner, but hates the sin.</p>
<p>God cannot love him who is covered in iniquity.</p>
<p>May God have mercy on us all.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Deschenes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Deschenes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People end up in hell because they die in there sins not accepting JESUS CHRIST as their PERSONAL SAVIOUR, Second i do believe that GOD doe&#039;s love us all if he didn&#039;t why would he have his son die on the Cross for us sinner&#039;s. Second GOD does love the sinner but hates the sin. That is why when people refuse to reject CHRIST and go their own way then they will die in their sins which is hell. The reason that he hasn&#039;t come yet but he will very soon. is he is giving sinners time to repent but not for long. GOD BLESS YOU Jill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People end up in hell because they die in there sins not accepting JESUS CHRIST as their PERSONAL SAVIOUR, Second i do believe that GOD doe&#8217;s love us all if he didn&#8217;t why would he have his son die on the Cross for us sinner&#8217;s. Second GOD does love the sinner but hates the sin. That is why when people refuse to reject CHRIST and go their own way then they will die in their sins which is hell. The reason that he hasn&#8217;t come yet but he will very soon. is he is giving sinners time to repent but not for long. GOD BLESS YOU Jill</p>
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		<title>By: Elder Summit</title>
		<link>http://www.biblestudy.net/2007/02/17/why-people-end-up-in-the-lake-of-fire/comment-page-1/#comment-6569</link>
		<dc:creator>Elder Summit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God loves every body ,but he hate sin</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Lehmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Lehmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heb 1:9  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, [even] thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. 

So, by extension, did the Lord &quot;love&quot; iniquity less?

A careful study of all the instances of this word in the Bible reveal that it has nothing to do with love.  It is used in contrast with love.  It has a purely negative connotation in every use - whether by way of forceful figure or obvious connection with hateful things.

Looking deeper...

Mal 1:2  I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? [Was] not Esau Jacob&#039;s brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, 
Mal 1:3  And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness. 

...this &quot;rough handling&quot; of Esau was not some sort of measurable affection.

How about Obadiah 1:8?

And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be [any] remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken [it].

And

Heb 12:16,17  Lest there [be] any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.  For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

Esau: rejected, shamefully laid waste, burned up, and emphatically hated.

Also, since the word in question comes from a root word meaning &quot;hatred&quot; and all instances of its use seem to suggest that it means nothing short of &quot;to hate&quot; - I can&#039;t help but think the idea for extending the meaning to include &quot;love less&quot; is merely an effort to support a more palatable (to some) religious view of love and hate.

The only instances where I can see where someone might want to force a &quot;love less&quot; extension are instances where actually doing so sounds ridiculous - demonstrating an obvious fact:

Figures of speech do not foist their extended meanings upon the ordinary definitions of the words that make them up.

I know somebody is going to say &quot;for God so loved the world&quot;.

Much more could be said, but all I will say is - The Son of God, the Lord Jesus died for all sin and God hated Esau.  That isn&#039;t a paradox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heb 1:9  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, [even] thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. </p>
<p>So, by extension, did the Lord &#8220;love&#8221; iniquity less?</p>
<p>A careful study of all the instances of this word in the Bible reveal that it has nothing to do with love.  It is used in contrast with love.  It has a purely negative connotation in every use &#8211; whether by way of forceful figure or obvious connection with hateful things.</p>
<p>Looking deeper&#8230;</p>
<p>Mal 1:2  I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? [Was] not Esau Jacob&#8217;s brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,<br />
Mal 1:3  And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness. </p>
<p>&#8230;this &#8220;rough handling&#8221; of Esau was not some sort of measurable affection.</p>
<p>How about Obadiah 1:8?</p>
<p>And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be [any] remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken [it].</p>
<p>And</p>
<p>Heb 12:16,17  Lest there [be] any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.  For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.</p>
<p>Esau: rejected, shamefully laid waste, burned up, and emphatically hated.</p>
<p>Also, since the word in question comes from a root word meaning &#8220;hatred&#8221; and all instances of its use seem to suggest that it means nothing short of &#8220;to hate&#8221; &#8211; I can&#8217;t help but think the idea for extending the meaning to include &#8220;love less&#8221; is merely an effort to support a more palatable (to some) religious view of love and hate.</p>
<p>The only instances where I can see where someone might want to force a &#8220;love less&#8221; extension are instances where actually doing so sounds ridiculous &#8211; demonstrating an obvious fact:</p>
<p>Figures of speech do not foist their extended meanings upon the ordinary definitions of the words that make them up.</p>
<p>I know somebody is going to say &#8220;for God so loved the world&#8221;.</p>
<p>Much more could be said, but all I will say is &#8211; The Son of God, the Lord Jesus died for all sin and God hated Esau.  That isn&#8217;t a paradox.</p>
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		<title>By: bill hawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill hawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 01:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i believe you will find that the translation should be &quot;God loved Esau less&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i believe you will find that the translation should be &#8220;God loved Esau less&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Judith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To whom was He referring to when He said &#039;... where the worm dies not..&#039; &amp; ...&#039; weeping and nashing of teeth...&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To whom was He referring to when He said &#8216;&#8230; where the worm dies not..&#8217; &amp; &#8230;&#8217; weeping and nashing of teeth&#8230;&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 17:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev. 20 13-15

The Bible does not declare that Death, Hell, eternity and whosoever was not found in the book of life will [Eternally] be in the lake of fire. 

It clearly declares that they will be cast, but does not specify that it will be eternal. Not to mention, that the Wages of Sin is death, and that man at that point in not in a spiritual body that exists forever. It is clear though that this is final destruction because we don&#039;t see another chance given to such persons.

However, Rev. 20:10 states:

10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and &lt;b&gt;shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever&lt;/b&gt;. 

Clearly stating that this will be &lt;b&gt;[ETERNAL]&lt;/b&gt; and logically, they are spiritual beings no wonder the for ever and ever bit.

please let me know what you think but this is what I understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev. 20 13-15</p>
<p>The Bible does not declare that Death, Hell, eternity and whosoever was not found in the book of life will [Eternally] be in the lake of fire. </p>
<p>It clearly declares that they will be cast, but does not specify that it will be eternal. Not to mention, that the Wages of Sin is death, and that man at that point in not in a spiritual body that exists forever. It is clear though that this is final destruction because we don&#8217;t see another chance given to such persons.</p>
<p>However, Rev. 20:10 states:</p>
<p>10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and <b>shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever</b>. </p>
<p>Clearly stating that this will be <b>[ETERNAL]</b> and logically, they are spiritual beings no wonder the for ever and ever bit.</p>
<p>please let me know what you think but this is what I understand.</p>
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